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LG To Unveil 8K, ALPHA 9 Gen 2 Processor & HDMI 2.1 TVs at CES 2019

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"Latest TVs From LG Offer Optimized Picture, Sound and sharp 8K Image Thanks to Deep Learning Technology

ENGLEWOOD CLIFFS, N.J. Jan. 2, 2019 — LG Electronics (LG) is taking the home entertainment experience to new heights with the introduction of its latest flagship TVs with ThinQ AI at CES 2019. Powered by the company’s second-generation α (Alpha) 9 Gen 2 intelligent processor and deep learning algorithm, the new models offer a higher level of AI picture and sound experience quality. Thanks to the new algorithm, LG’s TVs will offer enhanced picture and sound by analyzing source content as well as optimized content by recognizing ambient conditions.

LG’s 2019 TV range provides access to a selection of popular artificial intelligence services across multiple platforms, including the newly implemented Amazon Alexa in addition to the built-in Google Assistant. First available on 2018 TVs with ThinQ AI, the Google Assistant is again built-in to this year’s lineup, delivering a streamlined experience that allows users to manage daily tasks, find answers and control compatible smart home devices. Users will also enjoy the ease of conversational voice recognition and an intuitive Home Dashboard that makes it possible to control a wide variety of smart home devices directly from the TV.

The α9 Gen 2 applied in LG’s Z9, W9, E9 and C9 series OLED TVs heightens picture and sound quality with its deep learning algorithm (developed from a vast database of over one million visual data), which recognizes content source quality and determines the best upgrade method for optimal visual output. LG’s 8K 88-inch Z9 OLED TV boasts higher processing capabilities for delivering the most realistic 8K picture quality.

In addition to content source detection, the new processor finely adjusts the tone mapping curve in accordance with ambient conditions to offer optimized screen brightness, leveraging its ability to understand how the human eye perceives images in different lighting. The processor uses the TV’s ambient light sensor to measure light levels, automatically adjusting brightness to compensate as needed. The α9 Gen 2 AI can further refine HDR content by adjusting the brightness to transform even the darkest scenes into ones with incredible contrast, detail and depth of color, even in brighter rooms. Additionally, by leveraging Dolby’s latest imaging innovation, which intelligently adjusts Dolby Vision content, LG TVs deliver a compelling HDR experience, with varying ambient light.

Sound quality is augmented by an intelligent algorithm that can up-mix two-channel audio to deliver convincing virtual 5.1 surround sound. The α9 Gen 2 optimizes output based on content type, making voices clearer in movies, dramas and news broadcasts, among others. Users can adjust sound settings to suit room conditions or let their LG TV intelligently set the perfect levels based on its positioning. Featuring Dolby Atmos, LG’s flagship TVs are once again able to create incredibly realistic sound for a more immersive entertainment experience.

This year, LG is expanding its AI partnerships to include Amazon Alexa in 2019 TVs with ThinQ AI to give customers more flexibility when it comes to voice services. By pressing the Amazon Prime Video button on the Magic Remote, users can manage smart home devices, ask questions and access tens of thousands of skills and even set up their ideal Alexa Routine complete with wake-up call, traffic information and favorite TV channel switching all with their voice. LG 2019 TVs with ThinQ AI also feature visually rich Alexa experiences when playing music, checking the weather or accessing one of a number of visually-enhanced skills – such as the Food Network – to find great recipes and meal inspiration. Users can also take that long overdue trip “Down Under” by saying, “Kayak, book a room on the Gold Coast,” and also keep the family organized by checking orders on Amazon.

And with the new conversational voice recognition feature that comes in LG’s 2019 TVs with ThinQ AI, it’s easier than ever to get the right answers. By understanding context, the TVs allow for more complex requests meaning users won’t have to make a series of repetitive commands to get the desired results. The service will be available on LG TVs with ThinQ AI in over 140 countries.

The α9 Gen 2 also powers the company’s 2019 flagship 75-inch 8K LCD TV (model SM99). LG’s 2019 premium LCD TVs lineup (SM9X and SM8X series) will roll out under a new name: NanoCell TV, to better highlight the picture enhancement provided by NanoCell technology (NanoColor), color accuracy in wide viewing angle (NanoAccuracy) and ultra-narrow thin bezel with sleek design (NanoBezel). LG’s NanoCell TVs also offer AI-enhanced picture and sound, powered by a deep learning algorithm, as well as the streamlined experience offered by ThinQ.

And through the inclusion of HDMI 2.1 ports, all 2019 OLED TVs and select NanoCell TVs with ThinQ AI will support high frame rate (HFR). The result is smoother and clearer motion at 120 frames per second for better rendering of fast-action content such as sports and action movies. Support for enhanced audio return channel (eARC) enables home theater enthusiasts to seamlessly utilize HDMI connectivity and enjoy the highest quality audio formats available with superb detail and depth. An excellent option for gamers, the new TVs are compatible with variable refresh rate (VRR) as well as automatic low latency mode (ALLM) which helps deliver a clean image, without stutter or tearing."
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LG To Unveil 8K, ALPHA 9 Gen 2 Processor & HDMI 2.1 TVs at CES 2019

I’m ready to pre-order a C9, HDMI 2.1 is music to my ears!

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LG To Unveil 8K, ALPHA 9 Gen 2 Processor & HDMI 2.1 TVs at CES 2019

I want the C9 to replace my B6. I’m hoping that the 77 inch prices will come down, because that’s the one I really want. If not, it will be the 65 inch. Also bigger than my current 55 inch.

Curious how the new HDR feature will work under ambient light conditions.
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That's pretty awesome..Happy with my C8 but would love to be able to use Dolby Atmos to it's fullest potential..Of course would need a new AVR and UHD Blu-ray player that both support 2.1
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And through the inclusion of HDMI 2.1 ports, all 2019 OLED TVs and select NanoCell TVs with ThinQ AI will support high frame rate (HFR).

Amazing! I was worried if they managed to include HDMI 2.1, it might be confined to the 8k models
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Good to hear but what is HDMI 2.1 going to get you today? Not trolling, just asking.


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Hmm, I'm still in my return window from Amazon for the C8 and I'm not too thrilled with the flashing issues with near blacks. This might push me towards punting and trying again next Black Friday.

On the other hand, I mostly just watch TV and movies, so high frame rate won't really benefit me at all.
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Same 2018 panel, no top emission or TADF...
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It is mainly only relevant if you are a PC user. HDMI 2.0 can't even do 4k 60fps HDR 4:4:4

HDMI 2.1 will be 4k 120fps HDR 4:4:4 which will be future proof.
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I want the C9 to replace my B6. I’m hoping that the 77 inch prices will come down, because that’s the one I really want. If not, it will be the 65 inch. Also bigger than my current 55 inch.

Curious how the new HDR feature will work under ambient light conditions.
We're in the same boat. Was about to pick my new tv today to replace my 55" B6. Will see how this compares to AF9 and yes, hope price on the 77" goes down.
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Any high quality pics of C9? Looks like curved stand is ditched?
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Any high quality pics of C9? Looks like curved stand is ditched?
Press day is Monday, I'll be there. CES show floor is Tues, I'll be there!
Sounds good. Any chance they have truly improved their upscaling to get close to on par with Sony?
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I will be interested to hear how well the light sensor feature works while maintaining a reference level picture. Currently don't really mind switching to DV Home during the day and Cinema at night manually.

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Can you look into if LG has improved color volume in the 2019 C9? Sony A9F’s Pixel Contrast Booster gives it the highest color volume out of any OLED. As a result colors look more saturated at higher peak brightness. Curious if LG will improve on that.


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^that's gonna be one feature that's gonna cause headaches at first imo.
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It'll be interesting how they pull it off. Might impress the general TV buying public but what about the more discriminating crowd?

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It'll be interesting how they pull it off. Might impress the general TV buying public but what about the more discriminating crowd?
Seeing how LG implemented DV on UP970 and Alpha 9 Processor on 2018 OLED, I'm keeping my expectations low.
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Pretty jealous c7 owner here. Missed dynamic tone mapping in game mode and now even more input lag improvements and picture quality in the 9 series. Might have to upgrade...
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Seems pretty much as expected with no panel improvements. OLED has only improved in small increments in the last few years and it seems to have hit the ceiling until they change to a different emission. HDMI 2.1 is a nice surprise but its something that can't really be taken advantage of at the moment so personally I feel that anyone who has a recent OLED theres probably not too much to be jealous about. Anyone looking at a new TV at the moment I guess with HDMI 2.1 at least you have some future proofing there kind of.
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eARC, if you use a compatible AVR.
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Plus future proofing for next gen gaming consoles. Also, Xbox One X already supports VRR.


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8k 75" and 4k 49" and 86" FALD LCDs are interesting on the LCD side. Glad to see an 88" OLED making it to consumers, and HDMI 2.1 is great news. And for anyone not so worried about gaming or future proofing for things that may or may not take off (HFR), and more interested in features that improve older and current content, the 120hz BFI has potential to be huge. We'll have to wait and see how it performs in action but it sounds like a good step forward.
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Wonder if the new OLEDs will be certified IMAX enhanced...
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It is mainly only relevant if you are a PC user. HDMI 2.0 can't even do 4k 60fps HDR 4:4:4

HDMI 2.1 will be 4k 120fps HDR 4:4:4 which will be future proof.
None of the gpus in the market has hdmi 2.1 port atm. We are not even sure if they will in the future, especially if you use nvidia gpus. Even if an nvidia gpu has hdmi 2.1 port, it will not support vrr as that competes with their g-sync tech
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Seems pretty much as expected with no panel improvements. OLED has only improved in small increments in the last few years and it seems to have hit the ceiling until they change to a different emission. HDMI 2.1 is a nice surprise but its something that can't really be taken advantage of at the moment so personally I feel that anyone who has a recent OLED theres probably not too much to be jealous about. Anyone looking at a new TV at the moment I guess with HDMI 2.1 at least you have some future proofing there kind of.
PC/HTPC gamers can literally take advantage of these features right now. This is huge for me, having the ability to do 4K120 with VRR, matching my PC monitor for motion and input lag, while having far better visual quality? That's a huge win for us.

On the console gaming sides it is a little more dicey. The Xbox consoles do support VRR. The effective range will be the problem there. Needs to be low frame-rate compensation to handle the common sub-30 fps situations that you get on console. Sony and Nintendo don't support it but the next-gen Sony console will.
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